EUTHANASIA....WOULD YOU CONSIDER IT?
Euthanasia is the process of painlessly helping a terminally ill person to die. Also known as assisted suicide or mercy killing. This would normally take the form of a qualified doctor administering a lethal injection, which would end their life painlessly. Many argue that quality of life is an issue, while those on the other side believe life must be preserved at all costs. The arguments from both sides are of both moral and legal ramifications.
Euthanasia is legal in a few modern democracies: the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland. In the Netherlands, voluntary euthanasia has been legal since 1983, with some 3,000 people requesting it each year. In Australia, assisted suicide was legalised in the Northern Territories with the backing of a substantial majority of the local population, but was then overthrown by the Federal Senate before anyone could actually use the new law.
I could keep going on and on about the moral justification of the issue...But what is your view?
Euthanasia is legal in a few modern democracies: the Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland. In the Netherlands, voluntary euthanasia has been legal since 1983, with some 3,000 people requesting it each year. In Australia, assisted suicide was legalised in the Northern Territories with the backing of a substantial majority of the local population, but was then overthrown by the Federal Senate before anyone could actually use the new law.
I could keep going on and on about the moral justification of the issue...But what is your view?
Tags: euthanasia, killing, mercy
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Permalink Reply by TET on -
Does criminalizing euthanasia violate the notion of "equal protection" by enabling those on life-support to withdraw support and effectively commit suicide, while denying persons with terminal illnesses, but whom aren't on life support, an opportunity to die quickly? Are non-treatment approaches to speeding death, such as "pulling the tubes", justified? Or, do they needlessly subject patients to pain that could otherwise be prevented through euthanasia? Is euthanasia "unnatural" or not "how God intended" death to occur?
When i was in college, i've come across this topic and debated about it. As i vividly remember, our opinion were somehow divided into two. Yes, we support it and No, we would never support it...I think i could have been in the team of 'Yes, we support it'. But why?? I know there are a lot of moral and legal considerations..And the fact that NO ONE was allowed to do it in our country, yet! I thought at the time...Why let people suffer? why let them in pain? why can't they choose to die? do they not have the right?
Now..my perception to Euthanasia has changed. I can't directly say I'm against it (because i believe in making everyone happy-as long as they don't hurt others) I DON'T support Euthanasia because I believe in HOPE. I believe in MIRACLES...deep in my heart, I do. The dilemma is, i can't bear to see my patients in agony...so there you go, the cycle begins.
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Permalink Reply by TET on
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You ask for a topic...there you go. LOL. Maganda kapag nag-iisip...Next time, kamuritan ulet neh?!
Jelle_d said:As for now, i am still in the yes side, bata pa kasi ako eh, kaya di pa nagchachange a mind ko bout it, baka when i reach your age i might also have Hope and find it in my heart to believe in a miracle that a man in a vegetative state will still regain consciousness. hehe...
i'm just trying to point out your older than me, nyahahaha peace!
tayong dalawa lang ba dito Tet? haha!!! hirap kasi ng topic mo, nakakamuret sagutin! nakakainis ka, haha, wait ka lang jan, iisip ako ng bulabog na sagot...
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Permalink Reply by TET on
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If ever Euthanasia is legalized in our country...It has to be CONTROLLED and properly REGULATED. For example, only qualified experienced doctor are allowed to do it. Those doctors should be identified as well as the hospitals implementing it..
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Permalink Reply by Candy Diazes on -
I agree with Jelle 100%.
It would be cruel to prolong the pain and suffering of a terminally ill patient just for sentimental reasons and it would be a great financial, emotional and temporal sacrifice for loved ones to care for that person.
I say pull the plug.
JELLE said:pareho kayo ni Lola Tet noh, inconsistent views, you believe in Miracles yet, you don't want to see patients in agony, so you'd rather speed up the process of their deaths, wherein doing so, means you have lost all hope of a miracle to take place for taking away God's opportunity to perform one through the px you wish to witness a miracle by...hhhmm it is a predicament indeed...let's take it phase by phase.
first...patient is dying without any chance of recovery based from scientific or medical calculations, brain waves, chuva chuva chuvanels, (i'm not a nurse, hehe)
second..the faith in you suggests that miracles happen, anything is possible.
third...the scientific person argues, it's impossible the damage is just too crucial,
fourth...i argue with you two, and this is my premise...
if this were not the modern times, where facilities, equipments are present which helps the person who can no longer breathe on his/her own breathe, the px would already be dead..the patient only lives because of the equipments, man made equipments, equipments not made by God...if God were to perform a miracle he would do so, with or without the life support, if a person is meant to survive, that person will survive, no matter what the odds are, so if one decides to pull the plug, and the px as a result dies, it only means one thing,.it was time for the px to go. i lost my grandmother at the age of 87, she was bedridden for 15 months...i only went a few times to visit her, we weren't close, (mom of my father) but i couldn't bear seeing her the way she was, knowing her history, how she raised 7 of her kids on her own, sent them all to college, the headaches my father gave her, she is truly a survivor,,hehe.anyway, i often thought to myself, if i ever reached the stage that i am no longer in full control of my body, please just put me to death...i could let one go, to ease the pain, i allowed my mom to put my dog away when he got really sick, i witnessed his death, i loved him, but hell yeah i'd rather he die than suffer, i'm not comparing individuals into animals, but if i felt that kind of attachment to an animal, the more i should feel for a person.
i also hate to bring it up but the finances necessary to support cases like this, are not a joke. it could put a family to a great deal of debt..
all this in consideration, if i was a px, in this dilemma, i'd rather die, than prolonging the grief, the pain, adding burden to my family's financial concerns, taking their time to visit and look after me in hospital rather than using the time in moving on making use of the time they have left to enjoy life...the question lies on, just how much do you care about the people you are going to leave behind? does it outweigh how much you value yours?
i think abortion should be prochoice, i have to be firm and stand by what i believe in, we always have a choice, so if a px signs for DNR then that px's wishes should be respected, if a person has come to reach a point of a non viable life, then the person should be put to rest, for in the natural methods, where only nature should nourish us, as God has created us and where God has put us, natural environment, where no science has yet existed, the person should have been dead, science only interfered, it meant well, but when all has been done and nothing can be done, people who can think and decide for a loved one should be given merit and choose to step aside and allow God to go through His original design, take and give life, when the time is right.
's just like to point out though i believe in life's alternatives and our power to choose...this is about mercy killing, suicide though is another thing...
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Permalink Reply by Candy Diazes on
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JELLE said:hhhm, finally you find me agreeable, that's a breakthrough!
@Jelle,
Di mo ba napapansin that I don't disagree or agree with people, just issues or opinions?
It doesn't mean that if I attack your opinion; that I don't like you and all of your viewpoints and conversely it does not mean that if I agree with you in one stand...I would agree with all your opinions.
Please don't take it personally;)
But on a personal level I think that you are a very intelligent and agreaable person and I could get to like you if only you will only agree with everything I post...joke...joke...joke:D
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Permalink Reply by odraleon on -
Kung un-treatable na talaga yung sickness ng isang person then it's better to pull the plug like what happened to my uncle. He lived a life of alcohol, literally! morning pangmumog nya, tanghalian parang softdrinks lang and evening na may kasama pang pulutan. ayun nasunog ang baga and liver nya na kailangan ng i-dialysis. I saw his suffering when he was in the hospital and he's like... he's been running his whole life that he is catching his breath all the time, kahit na may naka-salpak na kung-anu-anong tubo sa mouth and sa nose nya. Ang prognosis nya is at least a week to live but my aunt tried to hold on to him. unfortunately my uncle died after 4 days. no miracle happened. Long before the doctors told my aunt that there is nothing more they could do and its better not to prolonged his suffering, which I think is the right thing to do.
But there are some cases of comatose people that came back from the dead, like yung prof ko nung college. He had a heart attack while having... you know... with a very beautiful mestiza while he was in cebu (yun ang kwento nya sa amin). He's in his 60's and still kicking! He went into comatose for a good 6 days then came back to life. Ipinagdasal na nga namin siya coz pinatay na siya ng iba naming prof. hehehehee! anyways... ang sabi nya samin nun "masamang damo, matagal mamatay" Its been 10 years na ewan ko kung kinain na rin siya ng kabayo.
for me its a case to case basis. kung masama na ang prognosis it beter to pull the plug, but it doesnt hurt to get another opinion, and another, and another. until satisfied ka na talagang walang milagro pang mangyayari. pero kung maganda naman ang vitals and nagre-react naman ang body sa mga gamot (and if your financially stable) tuloy lang.
If ever na mangyari sakin ang ganto... baka ako na mismo ang mag-pull ng plug. dont want myself to suffer lalong lalo na ang family ko and loved ones.
p.s. while I'm writing this biglang lumindol dito... nyaahahaha! nasa 11th floor pa naman kami!!!
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Permalink Reply by TET on
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Hello Odraleon..Welcome to MyPinoy..Is your name Noel?..kakaiba kc. Anyway, ok yang professor mo, kahit matanda na eh humahataw pa rin..Baka naman inatake dahil sa sobrang ligaya?..hahaha! You have a point on your reasons whether to pull the plug or keep the hopes alive. Same sentiments goes to JD, Ting and CD.
odraleon said:But there are some cases of comatose people that came back from the dead, like yung prof ko nung college. He had a heart attack while having... you know... with a very beautiful mestiza while he was in cebu (yun ang kwento nya sa amin). He's in his 60's and still kicking! He went into comatose for a good 6 days then came back to life. Ipinagdasal na nga namin siya coz pinatay na siya ng iba naming prof. hehehehee! anyways... ang sabi nya samin nun "masamang damo, matagal mamatay" Its been 10 years na ewan ko kung kinain na rin siya ng kabayo.
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Permalink Reply by helen on -
Euthanasia is one of the issues that has been a long term discussion, and lawmakers all over the world are struggling in making desicions.
in both moral and legal issues, there's a great division.. again, both state and church can't go together.
there should be a strong and specific guidelines about Euthanasia.
yes, certain countries like you have mentioned have legalized this practice. i heard in the news recently that if you want to die go to switzerland. and there is a travel agency as well that facilitates flight and funeral. i believe nobody wants travel agency of death.
in the medical field, the duty of the doctor is to preserve life and to restore health. when cure is impossible, the duty of the doctor is to alleviate suffering with palliative treatment and not fatal dose. again, there's a huge contrast on the rule of a qualififed doctor.
yes, we have the human right. we have the freedom of choice.. and we need to respect the wishes of the patients to die.
but i value the respect for life.
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Permalink Reply by odraleon on
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Actually nickname ko lang yan. yung full name ko binaliktad ng name na ginamit ko dito. hehehehe!
mukha ngang inatake sa ligaya yung kolokoy na yun.
TET said:Hello Odraleon..Welcome to MyPinoy..Is your name Noel?..kakaiba kc. Anyway, ok yang professor mo, kahit matanda na eh humahataw pa rin..Baka naman inatake dahil sa sobrang ligaya?..hahaha! You have a point on your reasons whether to pull the plug or keep the hopes alive. Same sentiments goes to JD, Ting and CD.
odraleon said:But there are some cases of comatose people that came back from the dead, like yung prof ko nung college. He had a heart attack while having... you know... with a very beautiful mestiza while he was in cebu (yun ang kwento nya sa amin). He's in his 60's and still kicking! He went into comatose for a good 6 days then came back to life. Ipinagdasal na nga namin siya coz pinatay na siya ng iba naming prof. hehehehee! anyways... ang sabi nya samin nun "masamang damo, matagal mamatay" Its been 10 years na ewan ko kung kinain na rin siya ng kabayo.
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Permalink Reply by Candy Diazes on
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Suicide on TV condemned in Britain
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081210/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_televise...
By GREGORY KATZ, Associated Press Writer Gregory Katz, Associated Press Writer – Wed Dec 10, 6:25 pm ET
UK TV station shows man's death
LONDON – The scene is difficult to watch, even for viewers inured to the subject of dying by a steady diet of violent Hollywood and television fare. Craig Ewert, a former computer scientist from Chicago, is shown lying in bed with his wife at his side while he takes barbiturates. He asks for a glass of apple juice to mask the bad taste and help him swallow. Then he uses his teeth to turn off his ventilator — and dies on camera.
Britain's obsession with reality television reached new heights — or depths — Wednesday night with the broadcast of the assisted suicide of the 59-year-old terminally ill American at a Swiss clinic.
Showing the final moment of death had long been a final taboo, even for no-holds-barred British TV, where sex and violence are common, and the broadcast unleashed debate on an issue that strongly divides public opinion....
Read the full story and view the video here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081210/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_televise...
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Permalink Reply by TET on
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Magiipon lang ako ng brain power at babalikan ko ito..wala na akong mapiga eh..lol
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Permalink Reply by Candy Diazes on
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This just in:
Vatican calls right-to-die decision 'murder'
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090203/wl_afp/italyvaticaneuthanasia
ROME (AFP) – The Vatican Tuesday waded back into a euthanasia debate roiling Italy, as the family of a high-profile comatosed woman welcomed the decision to transfer her to a hospital to die.
"Stop this murder!" Cardinal Javier Lozano Barragan, the Vatican's health minister, told La Repubblica daily, two days after Pope Benedict XVI rejected euthanasia as a "false" answer to suffering.
The remarks came as 37-year-old Eluana Englaro arrived early Tuesday at a hospital in the northeastern town of Udine where she can die peacefully, her neurologist Carlo Alberto Defanti said.
Her feeding tubes are to be removed in three days, according to doctors cited by the Italian media.
Englaro, who has been kept in a vegetative state since a car accident 17 years ago, has become a symbol for Italy's right-to-die movement -- and for the Roman Catholic Church's impassioned argument for the sanctity of life.
"To stop giving food and liquids to Eluana is equivalent to abominable murder and the Church will not cease to proclaim this loud and clear," Barragan said in the newspaper interview.
His comments come after the Pope spoke out against euthanasia following his Angelus blessing Sunday arguing that those in pain should instead be helped to confront it.
Adversaries of the "right to die" backed by the Vatican and the powerful Italian Church strongly opposed the bid by Englaro's family to remove her from the Catholic clinic in Lecco and take her to a hospital that would remove her feeding tube.
But on Tuesday Englaro's father Beppino said her transfer to the geriatric "Calmness" clinic in Udine is "the first step... towards the liberation of my daughter. It seems we have finally succeeded."
Defanti, who is part of a team of 15 doctors and nurses to care for Englaro, added that "she will not suffer."
Englaro's plight has been the subject of intense debate in Italy over the past decade.
Last month a court in Milan overruled a regional order barring hospitals in the area from halting her life support, ending an intense legal fight.
The decision came after Englaro's father won a 10-year battle with an appeal court ruling in November that allowed doctors to remove her feeding tube -- a decision that Barragan strongly rejected.
On Tuesday Italy's Health Minister Maurizio Sacconi said the government is searching for a new way to prevent her death, after several anti-euthanasia groups called on it to interrupt in the affair.
I believe that I found a way to get free medical care.
I would just declare that could not stand the pain of my hemorrhoids anymore and would demand that I be attended to by Doctor Kevorkian.
The Vatican will then do all it can to keep me alive...is this possible?
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ahahaha! adik!
some articles claim that average men think about sex every seven seconds. hmmm. CD i'm sure average joe is just around the corner lot ;p
Heeey lol ok ty for the add =]
Pero sa totoo lang nakakaadik ang sex; whether sa babae o lalaki.
You should try it sometime; even by yourself;)
